TBT 2009 - Comments about the Object: (User 1)


- Living with it interfered with the space.

- The sensation is smooth and pleasant.

- Pleasing and beautiful

- Exists an absence more than presence:

A non-space because of what surrounds it. Provokes visual interference, surrounds the space, (transitory in its essence). By accepting it is a rejection per se (something to be dealt with)

- The packaged of it, was relevant due to the limited period of time in the house (was near the Box as if the Box was going to leave in the following day).

- Temporality and supportive/engaging. (Find a balance in between)

- Integration of the box and them with the space is an unconscious process.

- Wanting to spend every time with the Box, supporting physically.

- Time has effect. Affects the box (A fast engagement)

- Establish a connection with it by sitting side by side.

- Is not a work of art but part of it! (They complete the work in some way)

- Allowing people to engage with it makes them think how to receive it and think about the level of expectation in art; (allow the function of the artwork to engage).

TBT 2009 - Comments about the Object: (User 2)


-The object was used as a table during its stay in the house.

- The textile function of the object was also very appealing.

- The object had for them the remembrance of an old suitcase but still a reference to a functional object. Made them think of something inspiring and at the same time romantic.

- One of them used as his own desk for a couple of hours. (They tried to emphasize the functionality and its use).

- Their intervention worked in some way as a written statement a document made for themselves and by themselves.

- The impact of the box in the room was notorious because it didn’t change the spatial organization but it transformed the way they perceived it. In same vague sense was a reunion, inspiring and even healthy.

- Due to all these qualities the box was reserved to create a special occasion and to enjoy the short period of time they had with the box.

- It also worked as a diary of their lives that in some way works as a testimony of what will certainty leave some affection behind.

- However the changes happened to in their lives even if it was for a night. The functionality of the box, worked also as a break in their routine provoking a relationship directly with something more than just a box.

- The experience itself turned out to be different and promoter of new things and happenings in their lives.

TBT 2009 - Comments about the Object: (user 3)


- The box was very appealing when it was unwrapped, but there was also a questioning between being a box or a cube in conceptual terms.

- There was an interest in naming it because it was there were several possibilities to go with the box.

- They faced the object as an object so they felted restrained in doing something to the box.

- They used it as a support base, to make it functional.

- in some way the box made part of the family for while, and was created a relation even thought the object itself remained strange to them. The presence of it was a bit frightening because of its size.

- There was a slight contradiction in their behaviour with the object because in one hand it was almost like a sense of loss but in the other hand there was a kind of affection. It is also interesting how the object even thought it didn’t suffered any intervention it became an active object that completed some kind of gap.

- There was also the interest of going for a walk with the box and trying to interact with it in specific places. However the idea didn’t happen!

- At the same time there was a need to not engage with it, because it is something that an ordinary object would not require from you!

- The box had a lot of dust in it.

- The box has also the power to precede you into the room as something that was dislocated.

- Nevertheless there was a creation of a relation due to the box being attractive to them. The physicality of it and its basic and tactile attributes it was not divorced from them because they felt it belonged to the everyday world. Another point that was considered was that it was something natural and very practical to accept.

- There was an objectification of the box diminishing it. The object itself becomes an accumulation of space that seems to belong to place but still does not belong. Remains alienated. There seems to exist a boundary that keeps us to still keep close but at the same time distant from it.

- In some way part of our lives were brought as close as possible because of a need of interacting

- it is also relevant to say with no apparent intention there was created an aura in the object because they felt they could project anything to the box as long as the box remained with no intervention. Afterwards it becomes difficult and there is also other aspect that once the box itself becomes intervened until the point whether it loses its integrity!

TBT 2009 - Comments about the Object: (user 4)


- They felt that the smell, touch and smoothness were very important factors to their engagement with the box because conditioned their interaction in order to reflect their interactions within the three characteristics.

- However they were concerned in leaving one side of the box clear because they felt people should have the same experience they had by touching and smelling it.

- The interventions in the box were a consequence of a gathering of people mainly friends around the box. As consequence of this they were tempted to think outside the box and analyze their experiences.

- There was a suggestion of making a suitcase, putting wheels, making a plinth, a skate board, walk it around the city, but they hadn’t the time to do that.

- The box had appositive effect on people making them work collaboratively and for a common interest.

- Some ideas were generated by the presence of the box in the place. In addition the box was placed in several places according to the needs and interest of the people that wanted to make use of it.

- The box itself incarnated the personality of a tourist that walks around without staying much time in one place but always trying to retain most of his experiences.

- The presence of the box was very prom eminent not only in the actual place but also in their memories as something that found a small corner in their conscious.

- Even though it was a short period of time with the box it was a good opportunity for them to be creative. One of the interventions was with candle works, a DJ stand, drawings and chiselling. All these interventions reflected individual instincts that pervaded instead of consideration. According to them this characteristic caused the awareness that the box was already part of them in some way but nevertheless it remained in some way a bizarre object but very appealing and receptive to everyone!

TBT 2009 - Comments about the Object: (user 5)


- First reaction was that it had a funny smell.

- The Box represented a distraction and an object that was very intriguing because its presence was very unusual.

- They used as a functional with several functions such as a seat and lather. They also wrote in the object with commentaries very intriguing about the purpose of the project.

- One of them asked what the point of the project was because there was a dialog very effusive about their beliefs.

- There was some investigation about how the box was made and why which resulted in several questions and debates.

- The debate was mainly about modern art and that led to several conversations about modern art.

- The box didn’t facilitate much communication between co-workers because they were already very close with each other. The box gave a new ambiance to the space because it enables them to be confronted by almost an alien that entered their lives for a period of time.

- In addition the fact that the environment of a working space was very restrictive they tried to make use of it in different ways.

TBT 2009 - Comments about the Object: (user 6)


- The surface is very appealing and beautiful, even inspiring, which let the ‘temporary owner’ quite perplex about the power of such feelings.

- The presence of the box was in some way quite unsettling. For instance the fact that the box didn’t open and still remains as a box.

- There was a feeling that the box even though was not destroyed it was in other hand vandalized by the multiple interventions.

- The intervention on the box was paintings that were similar to stamps. The paintings were small animals one of them was from Latin America, and in together with the paintings there was phrases written in Spanish and in English making reference to the paintings.

- The box presence was very stimulating because it had connotations with bad things such as ‘I am going to be boxed in’ or ‘they are going to take me away in a box’ associated with the image of death and coffins. In addition the temporary owner made reference to a poem that refers to being boxed in the Second World War[i]. On the other hand it was associated with good things such as presents or the Boxing Day when Christmas presents are opened.

- The box allowed a feeling of freedom that was only overcome after a few days since it was a kind of alien in their place. It was a slightly worrying for them to accept it because there was a sense of obligation to work with it. However after overcome the freedom allowed the temporary owner to even be ironic in its interventions.

- The result was in some way the imprint of a statement in the box of their egos while living with it. Nevertheless this attitude reveals a sense of identity by living their fingerprints quite literally or just metaphorically.

- The impact in the space was not much relevant because the house as they described was almost a building site, so it didn’t disturb any kind of harmony!

- In the end there was a slight affection by the box due to its presence even though if it was for a very short period of time.


[i] VII

Jumbled in one common box

Of their dark stupidity,

Orchid, swan, and Caesar lie;

Time that tires of everyone

Has corroded all the locks

Thrown away the key for fun.

In its cleft the torrent mocks

Prophets who in days gone by

Made a profit on each cry,

Persona grata now with none;

And a jackass language shocks

Poets who can only pun.

Silence Settles on the clocks;

Nursing mothers point a sly

Index finger at a sky,

Crimson in the setting sun;

In the valley of the fox

Gleams the barrel of a gun.

Once we could have made the docks,

Now it is too late to fly;

Once too often you and I

Did what we should not have done;

Round the rampant rugged rocks

Rude and ragged rascals run.

Song by W. H. Auden, 1941

Sunday, 4 January 2009

(Assembly) - Beauty and Morality

The Topic that I want to raise for this week is concerned with the fact that in this era of constant problematic issues we are faced with the abuse of Morality as well as of Beauty.

Can the abuse of the Natural world we live in provoke a disintegration of our Moral integrity!

Beauty is itself the essence of things and the absence of respect towards it, tears apart the enchantment of its presence.

Can we live in a world where beauty exists in a third realm disintegrated from our presence and spirit!


“by natural beauty it is perhaps best to think of beauty the existence of which is independent of human will, like the night sky or the sunset, mighty seas or majestic peaks” (pp.61, 2001),(Arthur Danto, the Abuse of Beauty, 2001, Illinois)

(Please feel free to comment and discuss this subject)

Publicized by Pedro Lopes em 1/04/2009 06:32:00 pm
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7 comments:

  1. Anonymous4 January 2009 at 20:43

    "Moral grounds [...] are always the last refuge of people who have no sense of beauty."
    [Oscar Wilde - The Truth of Masks]

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  2. C. L. DeMedeiros4 January 2009 at 21:08

    e se a moral e' apenas
    uma desculpa pra disfarçar
    a feiura dentro de padroes podres
    de poderes ultrapassados?

    a beleza não deveria ser questionada?

    a beleza ta' nos olhos de quem ve?
    vc concorda com isso?

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  3. Anonymous4 January 2009 at 22:23

    'Beauty' and 'morality' are two subjective concepts based on an individual opinion or taste. In contrast to that 'ethics' and, well, lets say 'design' are based on an objective framework: rules, reasons, arguments – rational criteria.
    From a personal point of view the beautiful might be good. But that's just a first impression, a feeling or a sense which must be proven by research and analysis, by comparison with what we know and have experienced...

    Is beauty a measurable concept?
    Is morality a more sophisticated concept than beauty?

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  4. Julia5 January 2009 at 15:53

    is it not that the breakdown in our moral integrity is what has allowed us to abuse and destroy the beauty of the natural world?

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  5. Pedro Lopes12 January 2009 at 09:52

    I believe that morality and beauty are one of the same kinds, if you negate one you are immediately desecrating the other. Obviously I don´t want to question the importance of beauty in our lives but the subjectivity that is implicit to its meaning shouldn’t be used as a way of alienating the moral problems that are present when we diminish the power beauty itself.

    What I am trying to say is that perhaps there is the mistake of the beautification paradigm that involves people in the generalization of the essence of beauty that certainly involves questions of morality. These questions make part of our own integrity as human beings that respect ourselves as equals.

    Let me say that the beauty is in the little things that we do and see in our everyday life so the way our moral purposes are faced will be the perspective in which we see things.

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  6. Anonymous24 January 2009 at 13:35

    Edmund Burke presents us with a dynamic process to describe the apprehension of beauty. However, beauty and Morality are issues that in my point of view are in constant conflict because their subjectivity emanates doubt: ‘it deploys the whole kaleidoscopic array of conflicting forces: the prescient and the timeless; the dynamic and the formless, the frighteningly proximate and the distant; the still and the giddy. And the most important characteristic of all, the restless oscillation between wonderment and dread, between calm and terror’.

    Burke reveals here the incoherent process that can be originated by a different understanding of what it seems to be pluralist issue in a society. In addition the existence of different statements about the subject makes it even more problematic, because everyone assumes a rigid position about the topic. The discussion nevertheless is important but senseless!

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  7. Anonymous24 January 2009 at 17:23

    This post on beauty and morality like the previous posts seems to be slightly muddled.

    you state beauty is the essence of objects or forms.

    I believe the idea of beauty is a device created by man with witch to measure value in objects. This is beautiful and this isn't beautiful etc.

    This shows your statement to be fallacy, as it cannot maintain its validity without implying that part of a form or objects existence is provided by mankind. This further implies that without mankind's influence the object/forms state will change, which is obviously a falsehood.

    "Can we live in a world where beauty exists in a third realm disintegrated from our presence and spirit!"

    In answer to the above, no beauty cannot be disintegrated from our presence or existence as it is a construct of man not a universal truth.

    You approach beauty as if it is an actual physical quality present in the world. I think this needs more thought.

    You seem to approach Morality in much the same way. I will end this post with a question. How can we abuse morality if it is our own construct?

    jo

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